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, that trade officials see challenges ahead. most recently, over solar panels. the u.s. has approved steep trade tariffs, a move officials here say could backfire and cost american companies this market. >> translator: someone asked me are you in a trading war with the united states? i said no. i hope we can sit down and discuss and try our best not to get involved in trade war. but i must say when others tackle businesses, i have to protect our businesses. >> policymakers also attempted to ease concerns about a brewing debt crisis here. >> translator: the bad loans have been on the rise this year, mostly due to the difficulties in management of some industries. but the overall bank as a quality stable and the risk is under control. ratio almost the same as that at the beginning of the year, far lower of the world's major banks. >> regulators and bank executives said that chinese banks have spread the loans across several different sectors including steel and solar panels help to go mitigate the risk, however there is still widespread concerns that overcapacity in several of those industri
in the u.s. we'll head out to new york city later in the show for a preview of what to expect on wall street today. and more than 2,000 hand picked chinese delegates gathered at the great hall of the people to kick off the communist party week long transition. beijing will only officially reveal the next generation leaders thursday. hu jintao promised political and economic reform, but he stressed china won't abandon one party rule and will stick to the socialist path. eunice is live for us. this is his big final speech, so reading in sort of between the lines almost is very telling. it's the legacy he's trying to cath. and what less gassy is that? >> many here believe what he is saying is significant in that it is his final farewell. he really was just reading through the work report to talks about the achievements, the economic and political achievements that the party has had. and also to outline the future challenges. one of the first challenges you had already addressed is the issue of corruption. he said the government needed to do more to root it out. >> eunice, we're having tr
we have been hoping for for four decades now will arrive and the u.s. will serve up more oil than saudi arabia in the year 2020. that according to a new report by people who actually do know the oil business very well. >>> and sex and the ceo. and the collateral damage. how widespread is sex at work? we really want the answer to that question? >>> what should the consequences be. >>> and no hockey. forget about that. no problem. look what the world of auto racing brought us over the weekend. a brawl! another black eye for a sport that corporate america was counting on? no fighting here at cnbc. sue's with me here again. nice to have you here, sue. >> it is great to be here, ty. those "fast money" guys got me all riled up over there. they're having a good time. >>> we're going to take a look at the markets right now. dow jones industrial average has turned into positive territory, not by too much, but hey if you're a bull, we'll take it. the s&p is up two. the nasdaq up almost eight on the trading session. >>> we here at cnbc, as you do, follow the energy sector very closely on "po
timetable. if they don't see that it would be inconsistent with maintaining a aaa rating. the u.s. is on negative outlook. s&p already downgraded. >> i think that we all kind of remember what happened -- i think that the big worry on the left side would be i think listen, nothing happened. interest rates went down again. that's a scare tactic. i'll use a scare tactic. $600 billion in new taxes january 1. that's reality. >> unemployment going back to 9.1 if this happens. that's a number that gets your attention. the "times" does a nice piece about fix the debt group. groups of very large companies trying to weigh in on their own side with ads. i don't know if we have them right now. nike with a mock nike ad that says just fix it. mcdonald's saying i'm fixing it. >> home depot. we can fix it. >> that group raised a lot of money over the last year or so. $30 million, $40 million, more than you might have anticipated to mount this public campaign. >> dave is doing a lot of great things. ceo of honeywell. wants to put aside -- i don't know if he's a democrat or republican. i know he's
. u.s. equity futures should be interesting to look at temperature basically on hold. not sure what to do after yesterday. we'll talk more about the economy in a minute with david rosenburg. it was pretty clear yesterday that depending on how you wanted to spin it, could you say how do you do for another four years. i don't remember any euro news in the last six months no matter how bad it was, we didn't get it free handle. so there's more to it than just europe. >> it was the fiscal cliff, but also the financials got hit so hard. if it had been romney, the cliff would be less of a deal because they would stepped all of them. so now we know and we lettered it first hand yesterday. boehner said we're open to tax increase, but part of a bigger plan that involves spending cuts. dove did a bungee -- >> worst thing i ever did. >> but it goes down and then right back up. >> the worst part is you feel like you're connected on something, but don't. it's a free fall until the very he said and then he start to feel like i'm connected to something and it throws being back into the air. >> my q
economists and business leaders say could send the u.s. economy back into recession. here we have an interesting divide between wall street and washington. wall street seems to believe and you can take a look at the numbers on how the market has acted over the past year. wall street seems to believe that we'll avert this cliff. washington seems to be willing to drive over the cliff. >> i think there's -- i don't want to pick on the tea party per se. you can say if obama would suddenly give in on taxes. what i worry about is there are people who are ideological in the country and more focused on other issues than taxation and money. those people i think are very much out of sync with other people as we discovered last night from the election. they could care less about the fiscal cliff. i think some people want to go over the cliff. >> howard dean last night, sam on "squawk" a couple weeks ago saying maybe it's the best medicine for us is to drive over this thing, go into a recession, provide some bed for growth in the second half of the year. it's a gamble. >> $5 trillion in cuts.
economics. back here in the u.s., reports from walmart and target. at 8:30, we get weekly jobless claims. october consumer price index. and the november empire state survey. in corporate news, bp expected to pay a record u.s. criminal penalty and plead guilty to criminal misconduct in the 2010 deepwater horizon disaster, a plea deal reached with the department of justice reportedly may be announced as soon as today. reuters says bp will plead guilty in exchange for a waiver of future prosecution on the charges. bp says it is in discussions, but no final agreement has been reached yet. >> fun to have you here today. we do hope mr. kernen get better very soon. he's not normally sick. >> he never calls out sick. so he must be really sick. >> i think there's a flu going around. >> convenient for all of us. i took chips out of his bag yesterday and now i'm -- >> who is the guy sitting in his seat? >> can we get some lie sole over here? >> let's get back to the topic dominating the conversation from wall street to washington right now. of course it is the looming fiscal cliff. we have made it
because the underlying fundamentals in the u.s. economy are clearly improving, and you also have a stabilization or soft landing happening in china at the same time. >> david kelly, what do you want to be doing here? what's your strategy for the fiscal cliff? do you think we go over it, and what do you want to do? >> for a long-term investor, you don't try and play this one. i agree with stephanie about the market probably going higher once they get a resolution. they will get a resolution. it's possible it could go into early january. i still think they're more likely to get a resolution done before the end of the year. either way, they'll get a resolution done. when that happens, then we'll resort to looking at the u.s. economy, which is strengthening a bit here. also, the extreme and relative valuations between high-quality fixed income and equities will push money towards equities. i would not run for cover here because of the volatility. i think you just have to, you know, hold your ground through this and hope that the market moves higher next year. >> bob, this activity at
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. blankfein writes "there is more than a trillion dollars of cash sitting on balance sheets of u.s. non-financial companies. certain will increase their capital expenditures currently at anemic levels, contributing to a virtuous cycle of jobs and growth." minimizing increases in marginal rates that could stifle risk taking and robust growth. he also stresses the importance of restoring confidence in public finance by implementing spending cuts and revenue increases. in the meantime, dallas fed president richard fisher tells cnbc that the central bank can't do much more to shelter the economy. >> we need to completely reboot tax policy and spending policy. if we have temporary fixes to the fiscal cliff, just push out the envelope of indecision until we have a sense of true direction, and it's time for our politicians to get their act together. >> fisher says he does not view the fed as a safety net. that is certainly a change of perception, one that congress is going to have to figure out pretty quickly along with the rest of washington. >> that it is. there's been a number of interviews
time in nearly a decade and the u.s. underperforming. any doubt now that rivals are stealing share? >> retailers like macy's finally quantifying the effect of hurricane sandy. walmart kicking off black friday earlier than ever. we start this morning with the markets looking to bounce back from yesterday's selloff and nearly 1313 drop in the dow. europe on wall street's radar after the ecb and bank of england kept key rates unchanged. draghi holding a press conference right now saying he sees economic rekafr ri remaining weak and reforms are crucial to boosting growth potential on top of greece passing an unpopular package of austerity measures on wednesday and necessary for greece to receive another round of international financial aid. china's ruling communist party congress con vealing today in a leadership change. so much to digest overseas, jim. what came out of the ecb is expected. came out of greece seems to be largely expected. but spain still resisting. a bailout. that's trouble. >> i know. every day the crucial -- that's the crucial link. you have to give them the good loa
at the ex-have a dax, up 5%. ftse up nearly 4% in the last week on top of pretty good gains for the u.s. markets as you know between 3% and 4%, as well. so no surprise perhaps today that we're a little bit weaker on the back of those gains. 8:2 just about decliners outpacing advancers. this is how it translates. ftse 100 down half a percent. xetra dax up a quarter. ibex down about half of 1%. a number of things going on in politics as ever. we had regional elections in spain. yields you can see slightly higher, but still well below 6%. now, these regional elections fairly important because we know catalonia has been pushing on on independence. now, it looks less likely we'll get that referendum, but not because people in catalonia are any less eager on a separatist movement. just that they didn't vote for the main guy who is proposing it. they voted for competitor party which is makes it slightly harder in the short term for them possibly to get a referendum going. so eases the pressure in the short term but means there is still a longer term problem there. catalonia is one of those reg
. china was down. they did have tremendously difficult comparisons. u.s. was also weaker. this was just not a good quarter. >> that's true. >> so ubs goes to neutral and trims estimates and cuts price target from 84 to 73. they say that deceleration is going into q-2. >> yum we're not that crazy about. chipotle. panera is a standout. this has been a terrific group. it lost its luster. entire quick serve contingent has become a place that people are worried about with the exception of highest value. panera. it's a decent stock. >> what's also surprising about what young came out with last month is they were talking about china. they weren't overly cautious about china. at the same time we've been getting better and better data points when it comes to china. economic data has been in fact turning. we haven't seen the stock market in china join and now we're not seeing it in yum. yum had once been the big multinational china play. if yum can't make it work, what other companies will we start to look at? will we look at nike or another multinational with a decent amount of growth from sales
on the very, very decent and accelerating fundamentals of the u.s. economy. >> maybe, and that's just today, right, ron? >> been since last week. >> we were talking about the market really being so sensitive to any rhetoric out of washington. >> i'm not saying it's not hostage to headlines. we'll get intraday volatility. from the monday before thank giving until now, we have effectively wiped out the losses we saw post-election. >> rick, how do you see it? market complacency, too much angst, are we overthinking this? how do you read the market right now? >> i think that the low volume movements of the equity markets aren't really telling you any information. there's no way even in aggregate a market could decide what's going on in harry reid or john boehner's brain in anything is going on in begin with. if you look at treasuries overlaid on top of equities, until mr. boehner's comments, the treasuries have taken the big picture on all of this. they're not going anywhere fast. fiscal cliff is important, but there's a lot of issues for the next several years that are going to be important to
cities but a warning we may head into a recession next year if the u.s. and europe don't solve their fiscal messes. right now the dow industrials a built of a breather down 21 points. >>> meanwhile, 34 days to the fiscal cliff. will a deal be done in time? today, president obama meets with small business leaders to make his case for the possibility of higher taxes ahead. our washington correspondent, john harwood, is here with the very latest. hi, john. >> reporter: hi, tyler. you know, everybody is staking out public positions and trying to drive public opinion their way. the president's been doing that all week. he is doing that with his meeting at 2:30 this afternoon with small business leaders from around the country. he is later going to travel to pennsylvania to make his case publicly, part of what he is saying is that if you adopt his plan on the extension of the bush tax cuts that is for the middle class and not for people at the top that almost every small business owner is going to get a tax cut as a result of that. and republicans are staking out their own position t
no time on this issue today. fitch saying the u.s. needs to fix that debt threat and moody's says it's going to wait before taking any action and maintain its negative outlook on the u.s. economy. one thing is for sure. the stock market is taking the fiscal cliff very seriously. the blue chip average is off the lows but still down sharply at one time today, the dow was down about 369 points. first time we've seen that big of a decline since november 21st of last year. off the lows rights now, the dow down 260 points at 12,985. the nasdaq is down 63 points, a more than 2% decline at 2947. the s&p at this hour is down 28 points right at 1400. let's break down what's behind today's dramatic decline in stocks in today's "closing bell" exchange. we welcome back michael pento, kwint tatro, jeff sika, and our own rick santelli. quint, you believe the market was going to go down either way. why? >> i do. i think this was long overdue. we have been propped up with some incertauncertainty. it's kept the market saying, are we going to get a change? it didn't matter who won. we've been facing pr
.com. >>> breaking news on an iranian fighter plane attacking a u.s. drone. it happened before election day. why are we just learning about this now? today? >>> but before we go to break, don't forget free market capitalism is the best path to prosperi prosperity. maybe there is going to be some progress in washington. i have an open mind. i'm kudlow. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] want to spend less and retire with more? at e-trade, our free online tools and retirement specialists can help you build a personalized plan and execute it with a wide range of low cost investments. get a great plan and low cost investments at e-trade. >>> we are more breaking news tonight. u.s. defense officials confirm today that iranian fighter planes fired and missed at a u.s. drone. that was just days before election day. so why are we learning about it mow for the first time? joining me, syndicated radio talk show host, john bachelor. >> good evening, larry. >> good evening. they fired at one of our unmanned drones. why didn't we fire back? why didn't we take some retaliatory action? are we just patsy
u.s. responses were in realtime to that situation. he has testified on the hill before, but this will be the first chance for lawmakers to talk to him since the sex scandal erupted. and obviously that's one that people are going to be watching very closely. but it will be behind closed doors. so we will not see him on camera tomorrow, larry. >> no, but it will leak out. the leaks will be great fun. eamon, i just want to ask you one thing. the president got all heated up about susan rice. but susan rice sold a story with the video and the spontaneous demonstration. that was subsequently proven not credible. in fact, it was proven not credible even before she started selling it. and mr. obama still has not dealt with that part of the story. how did she get that story? why did she sell it? and why did he sell it when he knew it wasn't credible? >> well, what the president did today, larry, was he linked himself politically welch with susan race. he hitched his wagon to hers in a political sense, and the president saying, look, if you're going to go after her, you're going
is saying the u.s. economy is strengthening. but he's cautioning that leaders must tackle the looming fiscal cliff. a conversation we can't get away from. speaking in missouri yesterday, bullard also says he doubts the central bank will extend a bond maturity extension program that expires at the end of the year. bullard is not currently a voting member, but he will ebb in 2013. and china's national congress continues with new leaders for the communist party set to be named later this morning. today a rising star said the party is moving towards requiring officials to their their assets. so an interesting piece in the chinese business press this morning. >> we have been talking about the fiscal cliff and -- >> we have? >> and yesterday somebody tweeted a new drinking game. every time they say fiscal cliff, you drink. they're right, but it's absolutely what matters. >> look at the stock market. did you see today what it's going to do? >> down again. >> it was down over 100 yesterday and it couldn't hold up. supposed to be up 70 when were watching yesterday morning. indicated down again. and i
to go follow the united states while it lobbies for a reconsideration of the u.s. stance. the delay could push back the start of basel iii by about six months. the law was mepts ant to be pha in by the start of 2013. >> archstone was not part of the zell asset, was it? >> i feel like zell was related to it. >> but he sold right at the top. so that was part of the problem. it wasn't just a total lack of due diligence. i mean, everything was valued hire when archstone was first sold, right? >> yes. but as i'm looking at this, no, sam zell i do not believe was involved. >> that was the equity office and -- >> and then blab stone. but blackstone even though they bought at the top figured out a way to then sell pieces of it very, very quickly. and they did very well. >> entrade is no longer accepting u.s. customers citing legal and regulatory pressures. that announcement coming hours after the u.s. commodities regulators sued the exchange's owner alleging that it allowed unauthorized trading by u.s. customers, u.s. customers must close their accounts and withdrawal all funds by the end o
thing that's changed a little bit is the u.s. has to take its tough medicine. tough medicine is we have to deal with issues like austerity and budgets and taxes. that's what europe has gone through the last three or four years. my guess is going forward this is the opportunity for europe to outshine the u.s. not that the u.s. will be a bad place to be, but incrementally, i think europe really looks good post-election. >> europe is going to outshine the u.s., huh? >> only because people are expecting such terrible things out of europe that when you expect terrible and you get, you know, so-so, that's an upside surprise any way you look at it. >> all right. we'll leave it there. gentlemen, thank you very much. we'll keep watching both those stories. let's get to john fort. he just spoke with the qualcomm ceo on the heels of their earnings report. let's find out what he has to say. john, over to you. >> maria, you already mentioned the headline numbers. i want to focus on guidance and a bit of color. that might change the way people are thinking about some elements of technology, and parti
is not struck by the end. year, the u.s. economy would head back into recession, contract by half a percent in 2013. president is scheduled to make remarks on the cliff at 1 p.m. time. speaker boehner will address us. can the president say anything to make this whole week look like a dream? >> that's a tough one. what our lalt friend mark haines used to talk about, we need a capitulation, we need the answer, no, are you kidding? there was a congressman on "squawk" this morning say, yes, don't worry about it. when i hear that i say, no, it's not going to happen. we have to have them worry, as worried as we are. i still see this kind of grover norquist run republican party which would rather not have a tax increase and take the tit titanic down in the name of the country. >> viewers will say, wasn't wednesday a woosh? what qualifies a woosh at this point? in terms of the signs we've seen, isn't that qualified as a woosh. >> you open down and rally between 12 and 1. you get the 10 to 1 ratio. i'm just quoting mark haines. if you saw 20 to 1, you would say, you need to buy it. i need to see hai
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and save the u.s. economy from going down a dangerous road. it is wednesday, november 7th, the day after and a special early presentation of "squawk box" follows the late presentation that we had yesterday. but it starts right now. >>> good morning, everyone. welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. and yes, we know it's only 5:00 a.m. on the east coast, but you don't have to double check your clocks. on the morning after election day, we couldn't wait until 6:00 a.m. to get back on the air. the american public handing president obama four more years in the white house. meantime, the balance of power stays the same in the senate. this morning, we have two main items on the squawk agenda. after months of handicapping the race, we'll find out how the global markets react to the decision and ask how you need to position your portfolio. we have a number of people on hand to help us with that task, including mike santoli. he is our guest the next hour. chuck gabriel, his job is to try to connect the dots between washington and investors. we have jeremy seigel. also, vincent rinehart. we'll be jo
. #. >>> if we go over the fiscal cliff, global business travel association estimates that u.s. biz travel spending will take a $20 billion hit in the short term. but how about the long term outlook? find out next. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. governor of getting it done. you know how to dance... with a deadline. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle... and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. this is awesome. [ male announcer ] yes, it is, business pro. yes, it is. go national. go like a pro. >>> what are the long term effects for business travel if the economy falls off the fiscal cliff? the gbta predicts the reduced deficits and lower interest rates will lead to growth in the economy and an increase in business travel spending. >>> welcome back. now to the weather channel. reynolds wolf is standing by. what is happening around the country today? >> the story is all west. everything is taking place out west. rain, some strong winds, even some snow. some places snow getting up to arou
that that is having on industrials commodities in particular. we have of course seen some optimism on the u.s. budget deal. we're also looking at the uptick in gdp data, but we're also watching some technical levels, we have been in this range of $85, $90 for true value. a moving average for copper, momentum in that commodity as well. gold holding it's own after that decline in the last session. right now we're looking at gold above the 1720 level. we'll also be keeping our eye on natural gas, we'll look at that inventory data. >> back to you. >> thank you very much. >>> as talks over the fiscal cliff continue, you will want to hear what republican senator rand paul had to say about deficit reductions and the controversial norquist tax pledge. >>> also ahead -- >> still to come, with the fiscal cliff getting closer. >> if i was involved in a negotiation like that and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say an agreement was reachable. >> former centr [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -
u.s. equity futures are down by about 21 points. s&p off by 3 1/2. and as we've been talking about daily, the looming fiscal cliff is a big piece of the market story. today barack obama is officially kicking off budget negotiations. at issue is a one-two punch. we have expiring bush era tax cuts and across the board spending cuts both set to hit in january. simpson and bowles with a warning to washington about what's at stake. >> if we get over on the cliff, we don't have a deal, and the market doesn't anticipate that we're actually going to be so stupid as to go over the cliff, then i think you'll see the market really crash and i think you'll see the rating agencies downgrade our credit again, you'll see fitch and moody's join s&p. i think you'll see corporations lose confidence. you'll see them slow down hiring, stop capital xebd churs, capital will go on on strike, it will be a hell of a mess. >> leaders of both parties think it would be to their advantage to go off the fiscal cliff. what a 12 straight that is, that we could win more as democrats if we let it go or we can win m
haven't made a payment that was ordered of you. >> ordered by who? by some guy? >> by a judge in the u.s. >> let's go to the hague. i'm appealing to the world court. >> they may appeal to the supreme court right here in the good old united states. >> let's see where that goes. i think argentina is a big country and if they want to, they can say, hey, nice to meet you. >> they can. >> right. >> if they want to get back into the capital markets to borrow money which is unclear if they want to at this point. >> what did you say on friday? >> they also have the money. they can make the payment. it's not as though they are distressed. >> you said they're not even borrowing. >> they're not. >> that's why i listen to your report. >> you did listen. i'm glad you did. >> it's amazing that 12 years after that default we're still talking about some of the ripple effects that's going back a ways. >> i thought it was an amazing story. >> we go back to the old citi saying countries don't go broke. >> remember shipley. tallest man in the world. good guy. a lot of good bankers. >> let's bring up old ban
a single share of stock even if he was guaranteed the u.s. goes off the fiscal cliff. just wait until you hear who he thinks should be the treasury secretary. >> we'll begin of course with the deal of the day. conagra foods has agreed to acquire ralcorp for $5 billion. $90 a share in cash. 28% premium to the closing price on monday. kayla tausche reported on potential for a deal between the two companies back in 2011. it creates the largest private label food company in north america. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is. it's big in size in terms of what we've seen in this market. look how excited he is. and they finally got it done. it's been one as you pointed out that was around in 2011. they couldn't get it done. that is conagra. they walked away. ralcorp stock price fell dramatically. they split the post cereal division from ralcorp. the two trade separately. so you did have a company here that perhaps became a little more -- i wouldn't say vulnerable. not as if they were committed to selling. the board composition changed. you have had activist shareholder get on there. that was very
in the u.s. right now? >> i think you have to look at it a couple different ways. number one is sustainability piece on fuel and foreign oil. electrification will play a major role in the industry whether it is pure or assist like we have in lacrosse and impala here and malibu. widely different applications depending on budget, fuel economy and efficiency. we'll offer a lot of those different alternatives here. the spark we're excited about because this is really -- we're going to really go hard in places like california, austin, oregon, where sustainability is part of the real culture and the thread of the way people live. when you look at the spark and you look at what the performance of a car is, we haven't announced the final range because we're not done certifying it but it will be one of the largest range vehicles and torque is more than a ferrari. >> but the skeptic will look at this and say not that you're supposed to comment on the leaf from a competitor standpoint but you look at the leaf and others and people say is there a market for electric vehicles in the u.s.?
of the response to the attack showing it took more than 14 hours for first u.s. military unit to arrive in libya after the attack. all right. >> joining me now is syndicated radio talk show host john bachelor. john, welcome back. david petraeus is a great american, an admired american. now he has to resign from the cia, why, john? what is the meaning of this? what is the timing of this? >> i am told by several sources it was not beauty killed the beast, larry. it was benghazi. mr. petraeus misled, i'm told. misled an important committee on the hill and he did not want to return to that committee as director of the central intelligence. >> so you're saying that the extra marital affair is not the reason? it's the reason he's cited, but you're saying? fact, that's not the case? there's a whole history of these things in spy circles and secret services and blackmail and you're saying that ain't what happened? >> i'm surprised at the timing and the timing tells us a deal. i am told, larry, this is my best information that mr. be petraeus has been under pressure of the white house to maintain the nar
i'm jim cramer. see you tomorrow! >>> i am larry kudlow. a blockbuster prediction. the u.s. set to take over as the top world oil producer in the next decade. will the epa block this tremendous economic and political breakthrough? then if president obama and john boehner can rise above and get a deal done for the fiscal cliff, there is a lot of money that could be made in stocks. and why shouldn't top military and business leaders maintain an honorable code of conduct? isn't it better to have a moral center? general david petraeus is a great man. but he made, unfortunately, a great mistake. first up, are we on the verge for american oil revolution? according to the international energy agency, the u.s. will overtake saudi arabia as the world's largest oil producer that before the year 2020. but -- don't get your hopes completely up as the epa could block this fantastic market-driven advance. nobody better to talk about it is john hofmeister. john, it is a pleasure to have you here. now, is it credible, first of all the report, we will overtake the saudis? >> report is credible.
this evening is mark ginsburg. he's the former u.s. ambassador to morocco. mark, welcome back to the show. look, i'm probably naive. but 16,000 reserves have been called up. maybe another 70,000 on the way. a ground war may start. can the israeli defense forces just take out the hamas forces? can they just take them out, martin? >> well, they can. and the fact of the matter is that they failed to do so in 2008 because of international pressure over civilian casualties. and that's of course the dilemma. but the fact of the matter is, larry, that we're seeing once and for all why we cannot let iran get a nuclear weapon. because hamas has been able to get these missiles from iran. and what's going to stop them if they're firing missiles at jerusalem today, what's going to stop them from firing a nuclear missile at israel tomorrow? that's why israel has to act authoritatively, finally, once and for all against the hamas military and civilian leadership. >> and stay on the ground for a while longer. in other words, not pull out. what i'm asking you i guess is just a basic military strategy issue. wi
-week high. again the fiscal fears here in the u.s. are definitely supporting the gold price. we have seen gold perform relatively well this week. in fact, it's probably one of the best performing commodities here at the nymex and we are seeing new buyers coming in to the gold market as well. that's what traders are telling me looking at contracts beyond this year, into 2013. so that is also supportive. copper prices meanwhile are falling even though we got positive data out of china on industrial production. the fears again of the fiscal cliff certainly outweighing what we're seeing in china at the moment. there's been a lot of action the last hour or so in the energy market, particularly in rbon gasoline futures here. keep your eye on natural gas. it is going to get a little warmer here on the east coast causing a little slide in gas futures. >>> bertha coombs has a "market flash." >> standard energy stock hitting a new low today despite they did report record production yesterday. one of their big shareholders, tpg axon hedge fund is calling for big changes there on the board and the ou
to see how it does and it doesn't arrive until 2013. >>> new positive signs on the u.s. economy to tell you about. it grew faster than expected in the third quarter. gdp expanding at an annual rate of 2.7% topping last month's estimate of 2%. our senior economics reporter steve leisman is here. what struck you about this report? i remember the day before yesterday you were saying don't expect that kind of performance in the fourth quarter. >> exactly. i'll take it. we can get to 2.7%. it is better than 2%. i don't love how we got there. big parts of that was government spending at the federal side. also you had inventories go up. what you didn't have is -- we marked down consumer spending and business spending was negative. i want to do 3%, 3.5%, 4% with strong consumer spending and strong business spending. those will be a sustainable path for the economy. >> can't let you go without a little fed speak. mr. dudley, new york fed chief, speaking this morning. >> some important comments. hurricane sandy was directly in his district so he made some comments about it. he said that the damag
prices here in the u.s. have basically erased this week's losses because of the gains that we're seeing currently in the oil complex. we're also hearing reports about iraqi enjoy saying that arabs should use oil to press israel over gaza. those headlines helping to cause this bid in the oil complex. in the gold market, we've seen steady declines over the last several sessions and now a little bit of stabilization in the gold market. there are concerns based on the world gold council report about demand particularly out of china. we've seen the cme lower margins for gold and silver so that may have an impact on the trading activity from here. carl, back to you at the white house. >> all right. thanks so much. in a half hour from now the president will hold key meeting with top congressional leaders on solving the fiscal cliff. we'll be over this crit aleveic event. both sides of the aisle will be covered. "squawk on the street" is coming right back. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 this morning, i'm going to trade in hong kong. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 after that, it's on to germany. tdd#: 1-800-345-255
congress would wouldn't come up with come miz, no way they'd face their constituents after the u.s. debt was down graded and if that happened, i thought interest rates would go higher and stocks wouldn't respond well. so it certainly doesn't sound in washington right now that these guys are in any way conciliatory or reaching across the i'll. we just don't know. and that lack of information i think kikts tole volatility. in a lot of people believe that somehow or other both case and difficult difficult ends. to beat the tax hike on dividends, costco, murphy oil, disney, ebay, del, oracle and sh washington bureau. what do you think? should people look up there before they why not take advantage of the lower tax rate. you'd hope they have something better to. >> but if it's cash they don't have an immediate use for. the special dividend makes a lot of sense. you get the horse to walk in the direction of the carrot. knock the stick. so the more you tax something, you don't get more of it. >> that's the whole problem. >> it doesn't make sense. >> the the whole big picture of this thing. i th
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